CLAN Teamplay

[Seraph]

It seems like we are getting owned by other groups and don't have a good strategy for maps. Maybe if we could get some game time where it is nothing but our group in a game and rather than play full out we could practice strategy for the differant game types and maps. I think this would help us to compete and build our group as a whole.

[Schlup]

I agree with you and see your point of view, however, I also see the point of the folks who just like to play for fun and really don't care if they win or lose.  So, if you can get some people together that want to practice strats and teamplay, then go right ahead and if you need anything from me to make it happen then let me know.

[cygnus]

Mornin! Myself personally, I am not competative but I do like to win (who doesn't!).  As Schlup said, I play for fun.  I do agree that that would be a good idea for the members who want to be more competative but it is also good for nooobs like me as I need the practise.  I think part of the problem is everyone is at a different skill level.  For me, I don't know any of the maps as I haven't played it enough yet.  Also do not forget about those people who feel the need to install game hacks, which gives them the unfair advantage - this could be part of the reason for getting owned.  Communication is the key and I've noticed the few times I have played with some of you memebers that certain people are very good at communicating during the game.  Maybe you could start a hardcore section for the more competative members like yourself Seraph?? 

[Seraph]

  It's not that I'm really competative. I just hate seeing our fun go away when we try to play as a group and get owned. I know there are people that are hacking and cheating. There are times in games when we just truly get owned by really good groups and everyone just doesn't want to play anymore. It was just an idea to maybe help us get a little better so we can add to the fun factor.

[Whippett]

what ive seen and do think 64 made comment on also is, that in a goal orintated game we do better as a  team  [team deathmatch]-not so well as for practice in a game that is not for me i dont take it that serious im prob the most mellow gammer you will find reason is i wont go into long details but i do want peep to know why so they can understand my posistion my -dr's say im a medical miricle that i souldnt be here right now cancer had me in its grasp then all of a sudden it was like a receeding flood waters it slowley went away i still get checked every 6 months and every 12 have treatments for prevention the only reason i tell u this is i have heard on teamspeak people saying that well whip dont want to play with us cause he dont like us and other comments which is far from the truth but the real reason is when some peep go into high gear over a computer game i dont want to be part of it     but hateing peep over a computer game ,no that wont happen i like everyone here and if hate or anger ever did come into my heart over a game thats when i QUIT thats my short story
hope i didnt ramble on to much   and sry bout the one long sentence my writing skills stink thats why i dont post much
o and back on the subject i do think someone in the clan is starting competetive practices for ladder play
 thx for your time
Whippet AKA-Bob

[tehfunk101]

The biggest thing i see is when people play an objective game like TDM.  Honestly, your kdr that doesn't matter, its the game winning match bonus everyone should be going for, to make the time in the game well spent.  Thats why most of the time i play TDM, because winning isnt really an objective, and sometimes i get irked during objective games and i'm put on a not so motivated team :

[CoCoCountyKiller]

Team play is just that TEAM play
one of you being awesome does not
win the game.

practice practice practice
wins games


co.co.

[Drunken Texan]

I like playing as a team. I like to have a practiced strategy. In previous clan I used to provide overwatch (snipe/scout) often but I also played many other positions.

[Schlup]

I like to be the runner/squad leader.  But can provider defense or support as well.

[cygnus]

I like watching the death cam since I spend so much time dying! 

[Drunken Texan]

lol, I seem to be right there with you in this game

[Pepper]

i just play for fun, but i play to win aswell, only for the xp really.

as for teamplay

put me in a role, and i'll try to make sure the enemy gets denied.

...if all else fails i'll pull a jeric and start stabbing everyone.

[tonski]

HC TDM in CoD6 is horrible, it's more camp than S&D.  I'm done with HC TDM.

I'd be more than willing to be a HC HQ or HC SD team leader though (organizing scrims and practices with a team).  If you want to do this let me know and we can start something up.  We'll be BPN team AYB 

[FALLEN]

that would be great talk to dark we have a group started and ok change the title this is a clan not a guild its not wow

[64m3]

we have an even mix of people who play for fun, for xp, for unlocks and for victory. all types are fine, i think that if we choose to play together in a party we have an obligation not to make it more difficult for your party members. if you only want xp or unlocks or trying out a new weapon and dont care if we win, then you should prolly play solo or make sure that the whole party is ok with losing. if you choose to play together in a party then just avoid the things that work against that, like ignoring the tactics and commands. it's pretty frustrating when it's domination and we have to say "stay away from the 3rd flag pls" and it gets ignored and we lose.

1 player out of sync in a hard match can make the difference.

it's not a matter of being to serious about winning, it's more about not being too selfish and making it no fun for the other players. lately i just leave the party when everyone starts soloing. maybe we should only form a party when we want to play together and not solo.

also, many of you play whats comfortable and not neccesarily what matches the game type, 3 snipers on headquarters is silly. make kits to match the game type, more of you need camo, claymores and c4. you will die less and win more, i promise. but you have to get out of your comfort zone with cod5 based kits. your deaths will be cut in half with camo if you use it right, too many guys with a 1-6 ratio.

i say we play some private matches to teach eachother better habits and put greed on the backburner a bit, sacrifice your xp for 1/4 of your playing time to get better in a private match.

[Drunken Texan]

I am game for that 64. If you wanna coach me some, I am up for it anytime you see me online

[tonski]

we have an even mix of people who play for fun, for xp, for unlocks and for victory. all types are fine, i think that if we choose to play together in a party we have an obligation not to make it more difficult for your party members. if you only want xp or unlocks or trying out a new weapon and dont care if we win, then you should prolly play solo or make sure that the whole party is ok with losing. if you choose to play together in a party then just avoid the things that work against that, like ignoring the tactics and commands. it's pretty frustrating when it's domination and we have to say "stay away from the 3rd flag pls" and it gets ignored and we lose.

1 player out of sync in a hard match can make the difference.

it's not a matter of being to serious about winning, it's more about not being too selfish and making it no fun for the other players. lately i just leave the party when everyone starts soloing. maybe we should only form a party when we want to play together and not solo.

also, many of you play whats comfortable and not neccesarily what matches the game type, 3 snipers on headquarters is silly. make kits to match the game type, more of you need camo, claymores and c4. you will die less and win more, i promise. but you have to get out of your comfort zone with cod5 based kits. your deaths will be cut in half with camo if you use it right, too many guys with a 1-6 ratio.

i say we play some private matches to teach eachother better habits and put greed on the backburner a bit, sacrifice your xp for 1/4 of your playing time to get better in a private match.

Part of the problem is people don't realize the amount of xp you get for winning..I don't play much but I average 20k+ on maps - even when I end with a sub 1 KD.  Playing in private matches is called practicing, something we could more easily schedule with more formal teams..

@fallen: I have no idea what that means in English.  The team needs a name, some way to refer to it; if people are adverse to it being something interesting instead of "the team" then I don't really care.  It's not a team if it doesn't practice or play matches against anyone, something I've not heard of us doing regularly.

[tehfunk101]

it's not a matter of being to serious about winning, it's more about not being too selfish and making it no fun for the other players.

exactly.  most people don't realize this, and just need to be aware how they are affecting the game

[Dark Insomniac]

It depends on the gameplay for me I like to be the defense for ctf and demo. But otherwise don't ask me to snipe.

[FALLEN]

lol really like i said talk to dark he is the one that set it all up not me i really have no info to give you

[tonski]

It depends on the gameplay for me I like to be the defense for ctf and demo. But otherwise don't ask me to snipe.

Well let's set up decent times to practice, 3v3 or 4v4 - either way we need a team plus an equal # of pick ups.  I think it'd be better to have more than one team anyway..

I'm okay with defense and pretty good with offense, just not running flags (bombs are okay).

[64m3]

thurs, fri and sat night are good for me.  =]

[tonski]

friday nights and weekends are good for me.  I have a cycling training everyday minus 2 and the 2 days off jumps around on weekdays.

[tonski]

Anyone want to take control of actually having a team since I seem to meet a lot of resistance when I nominate myself?

[Pepper]

I nominate 64 <3 <3, his mah hero.  *bats eyes

That and he knows his stuff on MW2, just read up and you'll see what I mean

[Schlup]

Anyone want to take control of actually having a team since I seem to meet a lot of resistance when I nominate myself?

Who's giving you resistance?  I think there should be a captain and a co-captain.  I think 64 should be cap and Tonski should be co-cap.  Just my two cents...

[cygnus]

For what it's worth, I will second that 

[tonski]

I don't care about being captain or cc or whatever, I just want to play as a team and kick some asterixasterixasterix against other organized teams..the resistance I meet is mostly fallen who wants Dark to be the captain.  I get the feeling neither Dark nor 64 want to be captains.  Dark doesn't say "My team has these folks, we practice at this time and if you want to steal a spot on the team show up", that's why I get the feeling he doesn't want to captain.  64m doesn't really say much about it so I don't have any empirical reason, just a gut feeling.

Edit: 64m doesn't really say much about being a captain; he only talks about being team creation.

I think this could turn into something pretty awesome for practice.  When I play I mostly pay attention to group movements, it mimics real life (I've spent time in the field maneuvering when I was in the Corps) and I think the game types lend themselves nicely to defensive and offensive strategies.

[64m3]

im not totally against being a cap, but i want to get things organized a bit 1st, i got kinda burnt out last time. Tonski has a much better natural understanding of organzied play than i do, but i think that it may have to be a collective effort to assemble a team and i believe that a captain will rise from it.

i think the team cap should be the one that players can follow easily, they may not have to be the one that works out the initial tactics as much as carry out a plan and have the team adhere to it and adjust.

maybe the first step would be to make a list of potential players, do a poll on some practice days/times and list the fundemental necessities for competition.

wudduyathunk??

[Schlup]

Well, I think you know I don't have a problem with whatever you decide to do, you'll just need some dedicated players to make it work.  If you want to do it then do it, step up and tell the people what time they need to be there and everything else.

[Drunken Texan]

I would like to help out in anyway needed.