Concerning the care package cannister running

[Schlup]

So I'm sure you have all noticed that when you pull out the care package canister you can run faster and you are equipped only with a knife.  I have had many people ask me about it, complain about it etc.  In my opinion this was done intentionally by Infinity Ward, if it wasn't they would have fixed it by now.  Plus in my opinion it is balanced, what I mean by that is that when you have the canister in your hands you CAN run faster yes, BUT you have no gun to shoot, I think this is a fair tradeoff and I DO NOT believe this to be glitching or hacking or cheating and thus all members are allowed to use that feature of the game.  Just thought I would clarify how I feel about it.  Personally I don't use them because I don't use care packages, I find myself dying too often when I try to call them in but to each his own, it just like setting up a knife only kit, it's part of the game and IW put it in there for a reason.  If you disagree with me then you are free to discuss it within the forum here and we can hear all sides of the story.

I'll also take this time to remind everyone that we DO NOT hack/cheat in BPN.  If you are caught hacking or cheating you will be instantly permabanned from BPN entirely, there will be no questions asked and there will be no second chances.  This includes aimbots, wall hacks, texture hacks, etc...basically anything that gives you an unfair advantage in the game.

[Dark Insomniac]

I totally agree with anything that Schlup has just said. It is part of the game so stop the cryin already. If you truly want to complian do it to IW they made it.

[64m3]

the fact that you had to post anything at all means that this type of gameplay is a concern. but i'll skip all the points about why cpk is a weak point of the game for a more core issue;

iwnet allowing it doesn't make it planned, they allow racism, profanity and hacking. just because they wont do anything about it doesn't make it ok or intentional. they haven't fixed any of the issues in the game because they dont care, not because they are planning for it to be that way. so we'll never know and shouldn't assume that it's intentional.

i think that this game (like many games) breeds poor sportsmanship and some feel bound to accept it because iwnet allows it. we scour for glitches (or advantages) and wait to see if it's legal, then when no one gets busted that makes it ok.

we should be better than them and show some integrity in a poor environment. lets not use them as a guide for our morals, they dont seem to have much and we're better than that. given a dedserv i'm sure we would have a very different rules set for our players than iwnet. we should play with our own rules on iwnet.

i'd be really sad if we agreed that if iwnet does it, than it's ok with us. i'm not into racism, profanity, hate, cheating, etc. so i dont want to use them as a guide for how to act.

that may not be what you meant, but that is what you said.

[FALLEN]

/slap dark and schlup lol

[Schlup]

When I say IW I mean Infinity Ward, not IWNET because there is nothing right about IWNET, won't even get into it.

Anyways, IW (Infinity Ward) has fixed multiple glitches including but not limited to, texture hacks, any editing to IWD files, the javelin glitch, nurfed the 1887's, Public "private" match fix, Infinate ammo fix, just to name a few.  IDK, maybe we should just ask FourZeroTwo if that was intended as part of the game.  My stance is that I think they PUT that into the game on purpose and that it isn't a glitch.

[64m3]

hmm, you may be right. but i think that if it's a "cheap" way to play we could discuss it at the all hands to get more input, i'll do whatever is popular. hopefully it's to promote some integrity in our play. just more discussion than "stop crying" would be sweet. there's been a light inhospitable atmosphere in BPN lately and I want to work away from that.

i think asking 402 is an awesome idea and the all hands vote could be;

1. is it a "poor or cheap" method of play?
-arguement for it; it's a part of the game.
-arguement against it; it's a part of the game and a poor one.

2. do we care?

*side note - i'm moving to my new home today thru Tuesday but i will try my hardest to be available for the meeting.

[Schlup]

Agreed, we will discuss it at the all hands meeting!

[64m3]

thanks brutha, i hope i'll be there.

[FALLEN]

lol

[Pepper]

I personaly like the carepackage, only for fun though.  I love to stab in games and it helps me do so

But if the group thinks its not fair or a "glitch" i will gladly stop!

I do vote for keeping it though!  Or atleast only use it when it's being used against us.

[Seraph]

The care package running only gives a small boost of speed compared to the normal running and knifing. The best defense against this is a shotgun. The only advantage the runner has is if the distance to get to you is small and they have commando on. Otherwise you can still shoot them and they die. Most people are usually to busy looking for targets to see the footsteps on the map show up. The overall effect is that they can still be shot while they have to get close to you to get their kill. Their speed is faster because of the weight of the object they are holding. This is something embedded into the code and is not a glitch as one would be defined. Your run speed is based on the weight of the objects you are holding. You run with a light machine gun and you run slower. This will probably be a good discussion when brought up tomarrow. No matter what decision I will stick by what the clan decides. I just want to get the facts out concerning it so there is no confusion.

[HashBrowny]

1. Seriously guys think about it for just a sec. for 1 i agree with Schlup on the point that they more then likely meant for it to be that way. Why? if you wonder.
just think. if you have a care package, are you going to drop it in the middle of the bullet fire in an open area for snipers...NO. your going to get the the nearest clear safe spot AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.meaning that your going to run a little faster

2. and also as Seraph has said before me. it is a lighter object meaning? the lighter the object the less downforce on your body as you run.

3. Schlup also said that it is a descent trade, you may run faster but consider the fact that all you can do is knife while holding the canister.

4. Some of you may not have noticed this like i have. but when i run with the Tar 21 or the ACR. i have noticed that i dont quite jump as far while sprinting, as i do with the Mini-Uzi or Pistol,Canister. with the Tar,ACR i find myself having to mount more ledges. with Uzi,Pistol,&Canister i can clear the ledges without mounting.

#4 again referring --> #2. the lighter the object the faster you go and further you jump.

[tehfunk101]

 i doubt IW made the caniser allow you to run faster so that you can knife easier.  It makes sense that you can run better with it to reach a safe zone, but people are exploiting it for the wrong reason.  Is it annoying? yes.  Will they change it? probably not.

[tonski]

Just from a realistic point of view.  Has anyone here run with a weapon slung over their shoulder?  I have and I don't care what you have in your hands, it's not any easier..it may be easier to run with a weapon in hand because it isn't bouncing around on your back.

[Schlup]

For those of you that missed the All Hands Meeting last night we all discussed this topic in depth and decided that we as a community will not use the care package glitch (by vote).  This will be added to the rules list.

[tonski]

I missed the end of the meeting last night.  Is this allowed again?  Noob tubes are with the exception of a mostly BPN room?

[Schlup]

No, care package running/knifing is NOT allowed.  We have agreed that with good sportsmanship in mind when we are playing BPN vs. BPN only we will not do noob tubes, it doesn't happen very often but when playing each other it would be good as a common courtesy.  So as a rule noob tubes are allowed since they are part of the game, but we WILL NOT use them when just playing ONLY BPN vs. BPN.

[HashBrowny]

Thank you Schlup for the above comment on Noob Tubes

[tonski]

Thanks guys.  Good to see you're still around Hash.

[Drunken Texan]

Just from a realistic point of view.  Has anyone here run with a weapon slung over their shoulder?  I have and I don't care what you have in your hands, it's not any easier..it may be easier to run with a weapon in hand because it isn't bouncing around on your back.

I was going to make this same point lol