New basecamp rule

[AngryYankee]

Either allow base camping, or take it out.  No garbage gray area rule where it's like "Well, you've been in there too long, imma come inside and kill you."

No.  What if we're bottle-necked?  We can't get out so after a certain amount of mystery time passes and the enemy is allowed in.  I refuse to play on such a matter.  Either allow it, or remove it completely.  No gray area.  So what if a sniper wants to hang back?  So what is there is an entire squad of snipers in the base?  There are other players in the game who actually advance forward and should not be punished by a few other players who hang back.

[Schlup]

I guess I'm confused...the rule is no spawn killing.  What is the problem/confusion with that?  Also, what would you suggest the full detailed rule should be?  Please calm down before you post because it sounds like you were raging when you typed the OP.

[AngryYankee]

I heard that you allowed enemy to enter the base if players stayed inside the base taking advantage of the no base camp rule.

[Arethius]

 There's a no base camp rule in the game? I thought that was just people crying about getting their tanks jacked and short lives. I still personally am for it. It's their base and we don't have a "double agent spy" class.

[Schlup]

I heard that you allowed enemy to enter the base if players stayed inside the base taking advantage of the no base camp rule.

No, not that I recall.  Now that being said, if you are attacking from your base, you a fair game.  Those not attacking from their base are not to be killed in their base.  That means that if you are flying the UAV and shooting from it then you are attacking and thus the enemy has the full right to come in there and kill you instead of shooting down the UAV.  Also, if you need to steal a vehicle I think that's alright as well, but make sure you cruise out of there as fast as possible and do not kill anyone in their base.  The exception being if I'm stealing your tank driving it straight out not harming any enemies and you decide to shoot a rocket into my trunk that does over 30% damage to the vehicle, I will turn around and kill you and then proceed out of the base.

Short and sweet: stay out of the enemy base at all times, however if you are being attacked by an enemy that is camping in their base you have full permission to go and kill them and then promptly leave their base.

[Samarium]

Given opinion only; I do not strongly support it however;;

I believe in a Match Type such a Rush, Where you're being "Bottle-Necked?" as it is there is certainly no need for the Defense to Enter the Attackers base with Armor and kill spawning Soldiers;

I also believe if you plan to Base Camp you are fair game, As if you are not going to die then the Defenders cannot deplete the Attackers tickets and therefore cannot win the game if the Attackers hide behind their No Base entry rule;



Although, for Match Type Conquest, I do not find it necessary at all for 'Base Rape' as the objectives are close by, and evenly spread across the map as where the two teams should be out of their bases taking the objectives like a proper Team should;
 Shooting into the base however from a far is fair, again you cannot expect the dominate team to sit back and be picked off from a far and have their tickets depleted.

Parking a Vehicle in an Attacker Base or a Conquest Base, I deem 'base rape' at any point.

Edit:  A single soldier should not be considered a base raper as you should deal with it accordingly as the game intends
  A squad would definitely be considered base rape aswell.


Just an opinion to help possibly broader views on the subject.

[Arethius]

I never see base camping as an issue in rush; only in Conquest.

There's a few maps that if your team is steamrolled early on that you will literally get bottlenecked out of your base and get pwned coming out of your base/in it.

[Schlup]

Bottlenecking isn't allowed, I would consider bottlenecking as base raping.  They are close enough to the base to be considered that way, it's no fun for the entire team that is being bottlenecked and we're hear to have a good time.  If a whole team is not having a good time they will simply leave the server thus killing the server and we can't have that.

[tehfunk101]

in my opinion:

"Base Raping" only applies on Conquest maps.  It also only applies if the team claiming victim to "base raping" only has 1 open spawn point (non-cap).  When an entire team is sitting in/around the non-cap obliterating everyone as they spawn and before they have a chance to fight, i would then call that base raping.  Its no fun for either side, and needs to be avoided. 

If your playing Atacama Desert and your running to get to the chopper, and an enemy pops out from a nearby building and machine guns you, thats NOT base raping.  Thats just getting caught off guard.

[AngryYankee]

If your playing Atacama Desert and your running to get to the chopper, and an enemy pops out from a nearby building and machine guns you, thats NOT base raping.  Thats just getting caught off guard.

If they are in your base as you run towards the chopper and kills you, that's base rape/camping.  I don't think the enemy at any cost should be in the opposing base.

You also made me think of this...

New basecamp rule

[Schlup]

If they are in your base as you run towards the chopper and kills you, that's base rape/camping.  I don't think the enemy at any cost should be in the opposing base.

I agree with that statement with the exception of the last part.  Like I said earlier, if they are stealing a vehicle and getting right back out of there without harming anyone I think that is alright, but that's skating on thin ice.

[AngryYankee]

I agree with that statement with the exception of the last part.  Like I said earlier, if they are stealing a vehicle and getting right back out of there without harming anyone I think that is alright, but that's skating on thin ice.

Grabbing vehicles, I can deal with.,  Just like in 2142, go in to blow up the commanders assets and head back out.

[chinokim]

i honestly dont care as long as no one is in my spawning area. i hate it when someone is there and i spawn then die. snipers can hang back but if they start killing me when i just spawned, too bad im coming in to the base when i have a chance and im going to kill you. cuz i see it the same as when someone stands in the base and waits till someone spawns. other than that i dont care for bottle necking cuz most of the time i can get out and kill few people, steal the tanks ill blow it up with c4. makes the game more challenging and fun, as long as no one is spawn killing cuz waiting 10secs sucks.