Dogs

[jokker]

Hello all, I play your server approx 80-90% of my time and think it is great except for one small thing

The dog settings are insane!

I don't know if it is the duration or the number of dogs but they can get a bit overwhelming at times. I am complaining from both sides of the fence here, I sometimes get 7-8 kills per dog call. I think this is just too much from one aspect of the game.

Anyway, its you guys server and you can set it up how you want, I will continue to play here irregardless of a change.

Just a bit of feedback from a regular player, see you on the battlefield.

[Schlup]

First off, thank you for the feedback.  I'd like to hear from the others on this issue as well.  The current dog settings are that 12 dogs come out, for a maximum of 60 seconds, however, the dogs can be killed with one shot from any weapon in the game.  Making them easy to kill and stay alive unless you are camping or not paying attention.  I want to reward players that get 7 kills in a row because it isn't an easy feat most of the time but if you are doing what you're supposed to be doing and paying attention and not camping then you don't have to worry about the dogs since they are so easily killable.

[jokker]

So let me make sure I understand the response:

The dogs high kill ratio (both for me and against me) shouldn't bother me as long as I'm not a noob camper (because everyone knows that the elite players all run and gun ) or standing around looking at the scenery? I don't know how these dog settings compare to other's servers but getting killed up to three times a dog call (mostly on spawns) makes it tough to enjoy the game.

Anyway, can't say I agree with your logic (only "campers" or "sightseers" have a problem), but like I said on my original post, I'll continue to play there irregardless.

Peace...

[Schlup]

No, obviously you can hear when the dogs come out plus the announcer tells you.  That means put your head on straight on start shooting the dogs, there should be absolutely no reason you should be killed even once if you are paying attention, you have an automatic gun and you are shooting the dogs.  There's only 12 of them, once they get killed they are done.  Typically if you look at where they are coming on the map from you can just fire a stream of bullets and kill them all.

[jokker]

You make it sound so easy  

Lets take a look at the stats ( nice addition to the server BTW)

I looked at yours/mine/ and then two of the higher ranking players with the most rounds played ScruffyGeek and Serapis (accurate at the time I checked them):

#1 and #2 cause of death:

Mine     #1 dog    #2 arty
Yours    #1 stg44 #2 dog
Scruffy  #1 arty   #2 dog
Serapis  #1 arty   #2 dog

Quoting you:  "That means put your head on straight on start shooting the dogs, there should be absolutely no reason you should be killed even once if you are paying attention". Guess the stats don't bear this out, and for what its worth, it may be no different on other servers. Dogs are the #2 weapon on this server behind the stg44 (and only behind it by 2%)

Once again, you guys can set it up the way you want. Its your server and you paid for it, I am just a guest. But I would appreciate it if you wouldn't just dismiss my feedback by saying "if you have a problem with it your just a bad player". Let's be honest, if you scanned most of the players stats from this website they would probably show the same pattern. Dog kills number 1 or 2. IF that is the way you want it that's fine, I'm free to play somewhere else and its your right to have it the way you want.

[Schlup]

Jokker, I'm sorry that you feel like I am dismissing your feedback because I'm not...I'm not nor do I feel like you are a bad player either.  Now looking at the stats you will see that currently I have 112 kills with the dogs but I only have 19 deaths by the dogs...because I shoot them (or try to if I'm paying attention which I don't always do).  The simple answer is that I like MANY others of the thousands of players that visit our server a day like to be rewarded by getting kill streaks with arty and dogs.  Now I believe our server is popular for a reason...there are actually a few reasons.  One is that we don't allow cussing and noob tubes (rules), two is that we have popular maps on a popular gametype, three is that we have arty and dogs.  Arty and dogs keep the camping to a minimum because you MUST move or redirect your attention when they are coming at you.  Now I'm not saying I'm the best player either but I know that when I hear an arty coming I'm gonna have to move and when I hear the dogs coming I need to take cover, put my back in a corner and start shooting them.  Dogs and arty have the highest kill rate because it's a weapon everybody uses no matter what their style is...frag grenades come in at #4 for the same reason...most people use them.  You have some snipers, they use dogs...you have run and gunners, they use dogs, etc.  It's the one weapon that everybody uses all the time so of course it's going to have high kill rates.  Just like if the ray gun was in multiplayer, almost everybody would use that gun and it would be at or near the top of most kills.  Anyways, I hear what you are saying and I appreciate it...I have tweaked the dog settings to give them only 10% health to make them very easily killable.  Just think if you were on a server that had them at 100%, dogs would completely change the game momentum and that isn't what we want.  But we do want to reward those that get to their kill streak goals.  Make sense?

You never did tell me one thing though...what exactly would you like us to do about it.  You want to eliminate dogs?  What is you solution?

[jokker]

Good Points, hadn't looked at it that way.
Thanks for having a nice, civil discussion on this. And once again, the stats are a great addition.

I still hate those "censored" dogs though............


See you out there,

jokker

[Schlup]

Alright Jokker...I will warn you though...because you made me type so much...I'm gonna have to knife you!

[Monkey_Grill]

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[Schlup]

Thanks for chiming in there Grill...you're a little late for feedback on this though.