Mozilla Firefox finally loses all credibility

[Schlup]

Opinion - You couldn't make this stuff up. The Mozilla Corporation - and never was the word 'corporation' applied to such an undeserving bunch of spineless no-hopers - is now whingeing that Microsoft's Browser ballot screen - exactly what they and their friends in the European Union have been demanding all along - is no longer sufficient.
Well, please excuse me while I throw up. How much longer are we expected to put up with these whining scumbags who patently cannot compete on a level playing field, but demand that commercial operations give their competitors higher billing than their own products?
It beggars belief that Mozilla's Mitchell Baker has the gall to say that the MS ballot screen giving Windows 7 users the option of setting up Firefox, or any other browser instead, was 'not enough to level the playing field'.
Here's a spot of free, open source, advice for Ms Baker - the world does not owe your sadly-inadequate operation a living. If you can't win the hearts and minds of ordinary web users by offering a demonstrably superior product, perhaps you should give up and give us all a break from your tragic failure to compete on the world stage.
Spending your development and marketing dollars on lawyers and lobbyists rather than producing a superior product is, quite simply, pathetic. Microsoft has done everything the EU and the freeloaders at Mozilla have demanded, but even that isn't enough. This situation is now nothing less than absurd. Microsoft does not need to give your third rate browser top billing on the ballot screen and nor should it.
Fight your own battles, you pathetic weasels. Don't rely on lawyers and politicians to do it for you. Why the hell should Microsoft give your product top billing over its own browser? If you want preferential treatment, build your own damned operating system and make it as popular among ordinary users as Windows.
Why are you not moaning about Apple and its monopolistic bundling of Safari? Why are you not whining about Google's upcoming Chrome OS? Any company that uses lawyers rather than technical excellence to make a dollar deserves to die.
The really stupid thing about this whole affair is that absolutely no one other than a tiny handful of geeks either knows or cares what browser they use. Mozilla has lost what little credibility it ever had.
I'm calling you out, Baker. You are a pathetic excuse for a human being, working for a pathetic excuse of an organisation. 

[AngryYankee]

I like FireFox.  I tried it after using IE and never looked back.

[Schlup]

Have you tried IE8 or even Google Chrome?

[Destro]

I used to use Firefox, but it was just chewing up so many resources..

[Monkey_Grill]

I use FireFox. The font in IE 8 isn't as crisp as FireFox's.

[Schlup]

You know I really do respect whatever browser people like and/or want to use.  I use IE8 partially because it is the safest browser available as far as automatically blocking adware, spyware, viruses, ect.  I can understand why Grill is so scared of all the viruses out there and he thinks all website are out to get him...it's because he uses Firefox and HAS to worry about stuff like that.  Anyways, the real point of this thread was to point out that Mozilla is being a cry baby over this stuff and complaining about stuff they aren't even due.  All I have to say is they need to get over themselves and learn that life isn't fair and they shouldn't expect to get something for nothing.  You know this is another effect of the Obama administration...everybody is DUE something now.  Where I come from you have to EARN what you get!

[Destro]

Agreed, Schlup.  Look at Sega.  They quit making consoles because they couldn't compete.  They didn't tell Sony to stop making the Playstation so good, or Nintendo to stop making their systems so good.  Nintendo did that on their own without being asked, but that's not my point!

[Schlup]

Agreed, Schlup.  Look at Sega.  They quit making consoles because they couldn't compete.  They didn't tell Sony to stop making the Playstation so good, or Nintendo to stop making their systems so good.  Nintendo did that on their own without being asked, but that's not my point!

LMAO...true...same goes for Atari before that.

[Monkey_Grill]

If IE or Chrome looked like FireFox, I would use them.

[Schlup]

It's not about looks, it's not about your opinion of which is better.  It's about Mozilla demanding to be treated better than everybody else for no reason.  They don't deserve it and they are using their lawyers to get what they want, however, they will soon learn a lesson of life that life's not fair.

[tonski]

FF is now the hippies of browsers, now what the hell should I use?  IE8 is okay but I don't have the same tools I need.  Chrome is a pile (opinion from when I liked G).  As a side note I'll never endorse G***** junk again after they have screwed me and so many people so hard.  Maybe I should go back to Opera now that it's free.

[Schlup]

Opera is a horrible choice.  It's the slowest browser out right now, uses the most battery power on notebooks, and also the least secure browser.  I use IE8 and Chrome, a little bit of Firefox when I want to run stability tests on the website or try to crash it because FF has a plugin that allows me to do it, but I don't use FF for any other reason.  If it's been a while since you have looked at Chrome I encourage you to try it out again.  There have been about 3-4 revisions and do versions since they originally launched it a little while ago.  By the way Chrome is the fastest browser hands down (the newest one) in benchmark comparison tests.  It also uses less battery power if you are working on a notebook.

[tonski]

Opera is a horrible choice.  It's the slowest browser out right now, uses the most battery power on notebooks, and also the least secure browser.  I use IE8 and Chrome, a little bit of Firefox when I want to run stability tests on the website or try to crash it because FF has a plugin that allows me to do it, but I don't use FF for any other reason.  If it's been a while since you have looked at Chrome I encourage you to try it out again.  There have been about 3-4 revisions and do versions since they originally launched it a little while ago.  By the way Chrome is the fastest browser hands down (the newest one) in benchmark comparison tests.  It also uses less battery power if you are working on a notebook.

That may be but unless it has some propriety "makes me coffee" features then I won't endorse those thieves' software.

[Schlup]

Well now you at least have to tell us how Google is considered a "thieve"?

[tonski]

Well now you at least have to tell us how Google is considered a "thieve"?

They canceled my advertising account after being delinquent for 2 months - they canceled my account with a 1500$ balance on it.  I'm not the only person they've done this to.

[Schlup]

Who was delinquent, you or them?  Why did they say they cancelled your account?

[tonski]

They're delinquent paying me for a month and in the end owed me two months when they canceled.  They canceled for "suspicious behavior" and no other claims.  I never clicked on my own ads and never even dared open the page (I tested the scripts and then added in the AdWords banner information afterwards and relied on user feedback to determine if there was further problems) - maybe that was suspicious.

[Schlup]

Yeah, maybe some random guy was running a clicking bot on the links...which means that guy screwed you over...not Google.

[tonski]

There was nothing suspicious in my logs and Google refused to help me out at all (logs?) - if they found a click bot they could at least have just discounted clicks from that IP or even host mask.  Seems to me they could appreciate the gadgets I wrote for their desktop and homepage widgets.  I agree, not their fault if someone had used a bot on the links - but, no proof of that and no help.  The day that it happened didn't show any excessive click or view numbers.  It's not suspicious to me that they closed it after owing me a k and some change, that isn't much $ to them - that's like 5 or 6 shares, but it's annoying and unprofessional to contribute to their community and then not help me figure out why the account was removed and leave me holding the tab for dedicated hosting because of the load the user community put on my servers without rightful compensation.  I should start a lawsuit and get the money, instead I don't have time and I avoid anything Google*.  

*Unless it's the class action they just recently lost reimbursing previous years advertisers for overcharging - something that took place while my t-shirt business was using them for advertising.

[CoCoCountyKiller]

There was nothing suspicious in my logs and Google refused to help me out at all (logs?) - if they found a click bot they could at least have just discounted clicks from that IP or even host mask.  Seems to me they could appreciate the gadgets I wrote for their desktop and homepage widgets.  I agree, not their fault if someone had used a bot on the links - but, no proof of that and no help.  The day that it happened didn't show any excessive click or view numbers.  It's not suspicious to me that they closed it after owing me a k and some change, that isn't much $ to them - that's like 5 or 6 shares, but it's annoying and unprofessional to contribute to their community and then not help me figure out why the account was removed and leave me holding the tab for dedicated hosting because of the load the user community put on my servers without rightful compensation.  I should start a lawsuit and get the money, instead I don't have time and I avoid anything Google*.  

*Unless it's the class action they just recently lost reimbursing previous years advertisers for overcharging - something that took place while my t-shirt business was using them for advertising.

bummer
sounds like you got the shaft

co.co.

[Schlup]

Here's my question...and I ask because I use adsense.  Why weren't you receiving checks every $100 you accumulated?  Did you have all the tax information filled out and all that good stuff.  There's absolutely no reason it should have ever gotten up to over $1000 IMO.

[tonski]

Here's my question...and I ask because I use adsense.  Why weren't you receiving checks every $100 you accumulated?  Did you have all the tax information filled out and all that good stuff.  There's absolutely no reason it should have ever gotten up to over $1000 IMO.

It's 100$ or monthly.  They had my tax info and I had received three months worth of checks prior to the incident.  They'll pay out the 100$ (I thought it was like 40 or 50) if it's been longer than a month - or maybe there is a setting I missed or I'd be paid out every 5 or 6 business days.

[Schlup]

Yeah I have it set to pay out every $100...

[tonski]

I may give it another chance, I'm really weighing my options.  Tax IDs are easy to come by and if you know how to follow textual directions (like tax forms before excel) then they only cost like 10$.

[Schlup]

I mean if there's money to make then go make it! 

[tonski]

Now that I've seen that the gov't wised up about small business I think it's there for me.  Once I can host my own server I'm in like a dirty night shirt - unless BPN would like to "sponsor" me by hosting and taking a cut.

EDIT: BY wised up I mean it didn't cost me any money to get my LLC EIN.